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j_young_80
30-10-2009, 04:07 PM
4. JIM'S TECH TALK



You Don't Need No Stinking Tire Levers!



Here's a trick that will impress your riding buddies by making you look like a pro mechanic.



It's removing & reinstalling clincher tires by hand only -- no levers. And it's not just a matter of showing off. No tools means faster flat repairs, a real advantage in winter to avoid cooling down or catching a chill. And hands-only avoids the risk of puncturing the new tube by pinching it with a lever.



You might think you'd need a gorilla grip to R&R a clincher tire without tools. But hand strength isn't important.



The secret is a simple mechanical principle designed into all clincher tires and rims.



If you look at a rim with the tire and tube removed, you'll see a channel in its center. This is called the "well" (where the rim strip sits).



The well is the part of the rim with the smallest diameter. That's the key.



No-hands Technique



A rim's sides keep the tire on when it's inflated. So to remove & reinstall a tire, you need to lift its edges over the sides of the rim. This is where the rim well comes in.



The reason most people think levers are necessary is because they work with the tire sitting up on the sides of the rim -- where it's designed not to come off. The sides with their slightly hooked top edge engage the tire so it won't blow off when inflated.



The trick is to position the tire so both of its bottom edges are in the rim well. Pinch the tire together all the way around as you pull up on a section with your other hand. Now almost the entire tire is in the rim's smallest diameter and this allows the last stubborn section to be pulled onto the rim for installation or up and over for removal. No levers needed!

3 Tips

For installation, it's easiest to mount one side of the tire at a time.

For removal, be sure to let all the air out of the tube and work as much of the tire as you can into the rim well before lifting it off.

To make R&R easier, don't use a tube larger than necessary. Use a 23-mm-wide tube for a 25-mm tire, for example.

It does take a little practice to master the hands-only technique, but it's mostly a matter of using the rim well. I know that some tires are a tight fit, but I've never come across one that couldn't be removed & reinstalled without levers.

Now that you know the secret, you can do it!

j_young_80
30-10-2009, 04:08 PM
You can also use wheel skewers to get the tyre off if you're battling and have no levers....

gsavage
30-10-2009, 04:38 PM
You can also use wheel skewers to get the tyre off if you're battling and have no levers....

What is a wheel skewer? pardon my ignorance but I thought skewers are used on a BBQ... :confused: I think I really need to go to this Novice bike maintenance course...

Bean
30-10-2009, 04:42 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:DjpWdnmX3tf-DM:http://www.nexternal.com/icycles/images/38812.jpg

j_young_80
30-10-2009, 04:42 PM
I think this link also explains it;

http://tinyurl.com/yzq2vpt

Bean
30-10-2009, 04:44 PM
nice one Jamie. LOL

Avi
30-10-2009, 04:49 PM
BWAHAH Jamie, i would give you +rep but apparently i need to spread the love first.

SimonD
30-10-2009, 04:50 PM
A bit harsh on the old vollie co-ordinator there!

Sounds like Michael Hanslip (aka Doc Hipster*) will be getting that session going pretty soon. And it does cover skewers! Also Prez C-Bold mentioned last night that Crit Intervals start up the monday after the novice prog finishes, so two weeks

*I am working hard to propagate this new nickname.

bosworth*
30-10-2009, 05:03 PM
I thought his nickname was "michael hanslip"

gsavage
30-10-2009, 06:20 PM
I think this link also explains it;

http://tinyurl.com/yzq2vpt

Ha Ha Ha... :D I will never learn, this is the 2nd time you have got me... and hopefully the last...

gsavage
30-10-2009, 06:22 PM
I thought his nickname was "michael hanslip"

Ok, how come Bosworth is in the group 'Bosworth'... and the rest of us are in some other group... Too good for us?

bosworth*
30-10-2009, 08:53 PM
Yes.

Startrek
30-10-2009, 09:44 PM
I saw Tim at the Ride shop one day just take my tyre and tube off with his bare hands all in one go, i was in awe .

MatthewL
31-10-2009, 03:58 PM
I wasn't watching all that carefully, but I think Simon's spontaneous flat (see Race bus thread!) was fixed without the aid of levers?

j_young_80
31-10-2009, 04:40 PM
as well as the one prior to it at cotter dam. Conti GP's = Rubbish.

SimonD
31-10-2009, 04:40 PM
It was! GP4000s are pretty easy to get on and off my rims though.

j_young_80
31-10-2009, 04:48 PM
Coincidence? I think not.

Shridevi
31-10-2009, 05:09 PM
I dont get how to do this (no lever)... all these complexnessess to it.

gsavage
31-10-2009, 05:48 PM
as well as the one prior to it at cotter dam. Conti GP's = Rubbish.

Mr Young, my Conti GP4000's are fine and have given me good mileage and almost no punctures... :)

j_young_80
31-10-2009, 06:57 PM
but now you've said that you'll get plenty.

Startrek
31-10-2009, 08:53 PM
Shridevi is all in the hands ,you have either got it or not.

SimonD
02-11-2009, 09:11 AM
OK, confession time. I put new tyres on my good wheels on Saturday night in prep for the crits. I had bought some nice new latex tubes. I ruined one tube putting it in because I am unco. Is there a trick for latex tubes? Butyl is easy, but latex is so soft and difficult to push under the tyre without pinching.

SueP
02-11-2009, 09:35 AM
Slightly off topic, but I've got the Vittoria open corsa evo-ks tyres (left overs from worlds) on my bike still - very lightweight HP (up to 10 bar, 145 psi) race tyre. They get cut up very easily but interestingly seem to be relatively puncture resistant despite the big cuts and are fantastic to ride on.

Simon - do you notice the difference with latex tubes?

SimonD
02-11-2009, 09:37 AM
I can't say. Yesterday was my first ride with a back one - the other having been destroyed! Hard to tell with new tyres at the same time.

Bean
02-11-2009, 09:47 AM
I've found the latex tubes need gentle treatment getting them in. As you say they are very soft and flexible, so you need to take your time with them. Not only can you pinch them easily but you can also get them twisted or bent over on themselves. The trick is just enough air but not too much as they stretch like mad once the air gets in. My experience is they are fantastic. Because they are so stretchy they tend to give way to sharp objects before they pop. I lost my first one to a pinch cut which also damaged my rim and the second went when the valve broke off after 2000k's easy, possibly more.

SimonD
02-11-2009, 09:51 AM
I'll buy a new one from TLC and try again. Now at least I have my old spare for patching!

j_young_80
02-11-2009, 09:54 AM
There is a joke begging to be made here about Dwyer not having enough practice manipulating latex.

I shall not stoop to such a level however.

mikeyc
02-11-2009, 10:34 AM
I saw Tim at the Ride shop one day just take my tyre and tube off with his bare hands all in one go, i was in awe .

I've also seen Tim do this and since tried it myself, very doable so long as the tyre is warm and you use the proper technique (and assuming you're using a tyre that is the proper size) *Epic fail attempt during a cold morning ride, probably best to carry the levers just incase*

bosworth*
02-11-2009, 10:34 AM
http://mywretchedconsciousness.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/condom.jpg

Adam
02-11-2009, 11:58 AM
What are you trying to say Boz?